Category: fashion

  • Now She’s Gone And Done Gone Tiny

    O HAI!

    LookitMeImDancin

    Bug is here! I maded a dress today. Akshully, I made the skirt a while ago, but decided to start building a whole dress, AND I managed to make my own fabric for it.

    This is what it looks like so far. I made gingham (on a pixelated LOOM and everything) and added a border with dandy lions on it. It’s very summery because winter is BORING and grey.

    I have to learn how to do sleeves, these ones don’t move right. They’d be okay for shoulder straps or cap sleeves, though. I safety-pinned everything and went to a pawty in Raglan Shire. Maybe I’ll add some flexi inner sleeves later. I could make this REAL PRETTY. And then I need a dandelion to blow. Uh, that means particles and stuffs.

    And then I’d have to make some shiny black shoes. I’ve always been barepaw in SL since mostly going around all tiny. I like making stuffs.

    I’ve never done that before, and I never danced before either, but here I am. The typist complains she’s stuck so mebbe I’ll show her how to relax and have many funs.

    So how do you start making clothes for tinies? In some ways it’s completely different from humanoid (biggie) clothes, but in other ways it’s really similar. Most of the clothing for humanoids is created in a graphics program and then imported in as a texture. Prims (primitive shapes) can be added to it, but the base of the outfit is made of textures applied to the built-in clothing options (i.e., in appearance mode > create new socks).

    One of the designers I admire has said several times that every time she starts a new tiny outfit it begins with an egg.

    Tiny clothing needs to fit around prim bodies. You can’t use the built-in clothes templates that SL has. Instead of starting with textures, clothes for tinies always start with prims.

    via Delight – Tiny avatar clothing, accessories, and more!: Making Clothes for Tinies

  • Schnappy Yooniformz und Nize Hets

    My young ward Bug has been getting in touch with her inner Jaegermädchen. She’s mostly green these days since she went on the Jaegerdraught Hunt and “drank the koolaid.”

     

    Here she is, out on the Steam Hunt 6 course, searching for treasure underwater in a dive helmet kindly provided by one of the hunt merchants.

    She like snappy uniforms and nice hats. As it happens, my typist took a picture of the very thing that Bug craves:

    If you look quite carefully, you will of course see that this is a WUMMAN.

    The men’s version came with a horse.

    Royal Horseguard on horseback guarding the back gate of the Royal Horseguards, in dark uniform.

    Yep, those Brits still sport the schnappy yooniforms und nize hets.

  • Getting good Body Proportions in Second Life (Bug, Please Take Notes)

    This seems like a good starting point for Bug, who needs to mess with the sliders a bit to make herself look more… like the little red-headed tomboy she’s supposed to be.

    The bulk of what I’m posting below is my own re-phrasing of a guide posted on the official forums by Penny Patton. The forums have a habit of disappearing or getting buried, so I wanted to make a blog post with the same general advice. I know, only in SL would anyone consider a blog to have more viability of lasting than the actual official forum…Apart from the issue of proper height in Second Life, over which there is oddly no agreement… most avatars in Second Life have grossly improper proportions.Proportions are not something you can really debate – you’ve either got them right or you’ve got them wrong and its basic anatomical science over which you have.

    via Getting good Body Proportions in Second Life « Pussycat Catnap’s thoughts.

    She will also be looking at making some simple prim hair from a script, and if she needs to resize it will be looking to avoid the “resize script in every prim” mistake by using a good quality linkset resizer, such as this one found at the Marketplace that was placed as a community service by Pussycat Catnap.

    I was at a class at Builder’s Brewery yesterday, making a nice little garden pond for the front of the new house area, and there was a call for people to not only check their ARC (avatar rendering cost) to reduce lag, but to check the number of active scripts their wearables contained. Someone rezzed a nifty signboard and gave it out that showed people BY NAME and the number of scripts they were running. One male AV, who was apparently helping to run the class by sitting on one of the “male sit” pose balls as a demonstrator of the project, had an ARC of more than 8500!! And he was shirtless, shoeless, and not wearing visible jewelry! How is that even possible unless he was wearing nano-particle scripted nose hairs and unseen weapons HUDS??

  • More Wonderful Things

    Dhughan here yet again, still digging into my STEAM4 folders and finding wonderful things.

    Second Life Clockwork Avatar in Japanese Yukata
    Mixing and matching Watchmaker's Brother AV with mask, fan, yukata.

    This is just what happens when you encounter things as you open boxes and think “Hmmm, this would be quite unique if I add a little of this and that…”

    Et voila! A clockwork Gentleman of Japan, complete with fan and a clockwork facial tattoo. Needs only an obi, which I know I can get with another such outfit at either Ancient Tree Kimono or Aki-Kimono, a shop that was on the hunt.

    Sometimes when going through hunt items, sadly, a gift will not work with one’s persona, or it does not fit well and is not modifiable or adjustable. In those cases, sometimes I go back to a shop because while looking around for the gear, I did see something of theirs that WOULD work well with other items in one’s inventory. Such was the case with Aki-Kimono’s offering; however I shall certainly go back there for other wonderful things.

    I’m quite taken with the clockwork AV from Secret Shelf/The Secret Inn, a shop that is connected to the, er, “captive RP” community that offers a place of sanctuary for those of that inclination. Although I don’t usually have much interest in sexualized content in Second Life, I recognize that for many it is an important part of their online experience. I generally avoid anything to do with slavery, for personal reasons, and don’t make a point of patronizing online shops that I know to be connected to the virtual slave trade.

    However, as Secret Inn seems to be providing a kind of respite area or socializing place for those who do enjoy roleplaying as a slave, I’m happy to keep their excellent Watchmaker’s Brother Avi in my active (but alternative) AV folder. It adds just enough Uncanny Valley discomfort to be interesting, yet it is quite beautiful when mixed with other clothes and accessories, such as a mask I just found from Orquidia. The Steampunk fan that came with it put me in mind of the simple unbelted yukata I had gotten from an Ancient Tree Kimono gift box, and here we are. It’s nicely animated, too – and as my shop is in Steelhead Shanghai, it will come in handy for any Asian-themed events (I shall take a stab at making a Chinese Mandarin Official’s outfit later).

    Some other wonders encountered while I relax and rewind (heh):

    Fantastic Steampunk Laser Bridge

    A fantastic laser bridge from KK’s in Mieville San Fransisco which will come in handy crossing gaps between some of the sky platforms Miss Lelani and I have. Might need handrails though, it’s a long way down.

    Captivating Monowheel by Nix Sands of XCENTRICITY and Gorgon Motorcars

    A wonderful monowheel – one of at least two encountered in the hunt, by Nix Sands of XCENTRICITY (I generally am always wearing one of their “Impressionista” vests). I don’t dare ride it up here on the sky platform and will get far too distracted to get any sorting done (as happened yesterday with Monty the Turbo Snail). I haven’t had much luck with vehicles (they tend to go sideways on me) but I look forward to trying more out.

    A lively and unsettling brass plant from Golden Oriole

    Made by one of the prize-winning shops, a lively and rather frightening brass plant from Golden Oriole. I saw it in several other shops during the hunt, it seems to be quite popular! I have packed it carefully away for when it might be needed.

    I have continued unpacking while listening to an excellent radio play of Robert Louis Stevenson’s The Bodysnatcher, keeping some things, discarding others.

    Utterly perfect for attending a Particles IV class, expect teacher envy.

    Among the “finds:” this EXCELLENT R.G.B. Top Hat from Hatpins! I am taking a break from sorting (I’m about halfway done with STEAM4 but of course there’s plenty of stuff to clear out from before) and about to attend a Particles IV class. This hat will be a major distraction, I fear, so I shan’t wear it for long.

    But wear it I shall.

  • Patriotic Party Necklace UPDATED gah

    Wow! Something went wrong with the permissions on this sales item on XStreet.sl – thanks to the kind customer who gave me a heads up. #secondlife

    http://tinyurl.com/294l5jg

    The only thing missing is a trio of matching vuvuzelas (and don’t think somebody hasn’t already thought of that, I’ve been getting freebies in my group gifts all week)

    Yeah, finally got something made AND imaged AND textured for marketing online AND uploaded. XstreetSL is changing over to this new “Marketplace” format, so now is a good time to be refreshing old stock and adding new, because there’s a couple of weeks of commission-free sales.

    Here’s some of the other images I came up with.

    I’m not great at this fashion model stuff, but I’ve noticed that the necklaces that I already have up for sale sell better if they’re backed up by bewbs. So Access Denied seemed like a fine choice for the shoot, hey?

    Here’s a sneak peak at the other version I was working on – it’s not ready for uploading yet because I messed up the sizing (curse you, tiny crusher!) but I had the images ready to pop into the GIMP template I struggled to make all that while ago, and what the hell.

    The blurb says “It’s almost Independence Day in the US, it’ll soon be Bastille Day in France, and the Netherlands are in the World Cup quarterfinals – show your spirit with red, white, and blue!”

    Struggled with GIMP on these but the second one was easier because I managed to remove the plain white background I shot it against more cleanly with the “magic wand” tool than I did with the first one… forgot to set the edges to feather on the first one, and I “grew” the selection by 2 pixels around my kitty avatar, so I didn’t have a messy white halo to clean up using a layer mask.

    Tried playing with the gradient tool and with it set to “spiral” and a “Caribbean” pattern chosen at random, it kind of “popped” for me on the first try. I like it, actually… I don’t really have any mad skillz AT ALL but I’m feeling less lost in GIMP.

    Here’s some more photos that didn’t make the “xstreetSL/Marketplace” cut… heh. I went by my friend BookemJackson Streeter’s “Lacamas Reading Hall” in Pini, since I knew she had some nice chairs with poses in them.

    I love this sweet little muumuu (which was a freebie from Raglan Shire’s build at a previous SL*B celebration but the necklace was getting lost in the pattern. I was shooting against a plain white backdrop for easier background-cutting in GIMP.

    Heh. Yes, that’s “JUMP You Fuckers!!” behind my head. It must date from the financial meltdown, Bookem is bringing an author in for a talk on the subject and had this graphic out in front as an advertisement. I might go back and crop this a little better so you can’t see the building it screens peeking out in the upper corners.

    Not crazy about this hair, it’s a freebie I happened to have on while I was working. I’ve been mostly wearing steampunk stuff lately and my “normal clothes” wardrobe is totally neglected.

    Dhughan has been busy! He’s working on improving his little walking sticks – in fact he’s hoping to add better animations so that they work well without an outside animation overrider. He was just about to pay $L5000!!!!111!!! to buy a “builder’s full perm cane-AO pack” but stepped back from the brink in time…  and then he found a free, full perm script in his inventory (he opens a lot of freebie builder’s boxes) that seems to be a simple wearable-object AO script.

    So he was fooling around with one of the new, unanimated canes looking for decent male full-perm walks (sigh…) that don’t look like constipated gorillas in search of the little primates’ room.  He actually has a decent collection of free animations, so I’m confident he’ll pull something together. He also contacted a couple of makers to inquire about a better deal on a much simpler cane-AO option. We’ll see.

    He’s thinking about renting the funky Chinese railcar in front of his current place in Steelhead Shanghai, and turning it into a sort of barber shop, since it’s completely open on one side (looks like a trolley, actually.

    As it happens… I did not step back from the brink recently and ended up buying a bunch more land that became available in my home sim, Tintafel.

    It started with one parcel. It’s always just one – an ordinary, cheap little parcel in a Mainland sim called Tintafel. And then it was another parcel right next to it that was almost as cheap, but not the really expensive one on the other side. After several months, after learning to build my first house and going through the second STEAM hunt, I had all this nice furniture and stuff that I couldn’t put out because of not having enough land to support the high-prim items.

    Well, and then another 512 parcel came open, about when I lost my “view” of the sunset when someone put up a large building in front. I was in a canyon, by then – my parcels backed up to the sim boundary and there was a HUGE building right behind me.

    So I bought the third parcel, which came with a nice building and furniture, and that became the “store” (which has never been officially “opened” or put in search, because I’ve mostly been dabbling (and learning) all this time. Still, it’s kind of decorated as a steampunk cafe. I had hoped to learn how to make sculpties that look like antique glass knicknacks, but it’s a slow process.

    And then there was a fourth parcel, not quite contiguous with the third one, but kitty-korner. And then a 1024 parcel popped open that adjoined the fourth one… So it goes. I just wanted the prims, and I’ve got funding figured out that covers costs.

    Then a neighbor put up ban lines right across my “shop stoop.” Not sure if I’d offended by crossing her land to get to the one I call “Chameleonic Greenhouse,” or by having lots of scrips running… so I pulled back a bit and sat tight. And another neighbor wanted to know if I wanted to sell the back two parcels, my original “home” and the “Posada party” land. No… but maybe.

    That’s how it stood for a few months, and then just before leaving to go to a RL event last week, and while standing on the brink of what would have been a stupid land purchase, that biggest parcel that was between the “shop” and the “greenhouse” and the other big empty field went up for sale. It pretty much doubled my holdings… all group land, all discounted, mind you. So I agonized, looked at my tier funding sources, increased to the next level of tier, increased my group donation, and bought it.

    And then yet another parcel… I still had enough tier for that, bought it, then swapped one of the back lots with the neighbor. Whew.

    The gold circle is me, looking toward the east (that’s the highlighted spotlight thing) and the red circle is approximately where the greenhouse is. The two grey rectangles to the west are mine,

    So I have plenty of land for building and making stuff now, at least! Spent some time over the weekend making “footprints” of all the parcels at ground level and sending them up into the sky – may have to move everything (carefully) higher up to give another neighbor more privacy. All my building crap is just out there, although I did put down some grass textures and a tree and stuff around my Asian teahouse that I used as a skybox.

    Thought I was being careful and accurate, but ended up with kind of a big gap (probably due to leaving plenty of room for “easement” on the east side of my land), and never did get the “greenhouse” parcel footprinted, so Dhughan built a little bridge over the gap and was messing about on “his” 1024 parcel with various free steampunk buildings. He may end up building a little cabin up there, then move it “downstairs” when it’s done.

    Meanwhile, I have to go around and “lock” all the platforms so that I don’t accidentally delete them while editing something, as it would be inconvenient to fall 300 virtual meters, right? Right.

    Because I sure haven’t done that before when I’d build stuff in my teahouse/skybox. Never mind that tme when I was moving the little adobe house and it hit the sim boundary and bounced into space somewhere over the Socrates club. ::whistles innocently::

    UPDATE oh boy… something must have gone wrong when I uploaded this item to XstreetSL, because the perms went all wacky and my customer, Zane Refenoir, couldn’t modify it or copy it. That’s just wrong and bad.

    Fortunately, I was able to get inworld quickly after getting back to Zane during the RL workday via the trusty iPhone app, Pocket Metaverse. What a lifesaver that app is!

    So far, I’ve just updated the one product – I think it may have been because there was a bug somewhere… Thought I had changed that long ago, but clearly I’m going to have to go through my products carefully, and delete the versions that have the wrong perms. I don’t know how the “big” virtual retailers like BlakOpal handle it when all the perms get set wrong (I’ve heard of problems like that lately) – but then maybe it’s my own rather chaotic workflow that’s compounding the problem.

  • O HAI CAN U SEES?? Red White and Blue Necklace for US, Dutch, French YAY!

    Yes, another silly virtual item, this one sized for Wynx-type tinies (more or less). If it doesn’t fit right, contact me inworld! I don’t have access to many tiny avatars for fitting… #secondlife

    @LC@ Tinies Red White and Blue Necklace c/m/t (boxed) by Lelani Carver – Second Life XStreet SL Marketplace

    Red, white and blue tricolor necklace for TINIES. It’s Independence Day Weekend in the US, it’s almost Bastille Day in France, and the Netherlands are in the SEMIFINALS in the World Cup! Celebrate with this fun necklace – you may pass it along to friends, too. It’s modify so you can adjust the size manually (sorry, no resizer at the moment).

    PS EVERYBODY MUST GO DUTCH! It’s because of a Dutch woman that I have my RL career, it’s partly because of a Dutch man that I have my current position, and two different Dutch people make tutorials or products that I use for doing stuff in Second Life. So go you Dutch footballers!

  • Beads, Mardi Gras, and the Superbowl: New Orleans Rising

    Even I am happy about this: New Orleans wins the Super Bowl 31 – 17 against the Colts, best remembered as the guys that snuck out of town in the dead of night.

    Got beads? Want some virtual ones? Check out my virtual store online or inworld in Tintafel.

    Yes, yes, I’m pimpin mah beadz, but at least the setting is appropriate.

    Mardi Gras! It’s this Tuesday – are you ready to party in New Orleans (or New Toulouse)? It’s time to earn your beads and go wild, girls and boys!

    You can give or gift these beads to friends, copy them, modify them.

    Photo taken in the New Toulouse sim.

  • New Look at Lauks Nest


    It’s been a shockingly long time since my last update. It’s only because I’ve been busy wandering around and getting my virtual sea legs. Second Life is kind of an all-encompassing experience; if you get into, you really get into it. To the exclusion of a lot of other things, at least at first.

    Even blogging.

    I seem to have a “job” and a “place to live,” and my “life” has started to settle into a pretty comfortable routine. Also, I’ve evened out my First Life/Second Life time priorities, now that I’m no longer really a “n00b” (a player of less than 30 days).

    Here I am, acting as hostess at the new “jazz dancefloor” at Lauks Nest. Lauks is considered something of a virtual treasure on Second Life, because it’s a famous “build” and a lot of people have affection for it as one of the first beautiful island sims that was designed just to be pretty, for people to explore and find all the interesting little secret places. Lukas Mensing, the current owner, considers it his cultural duty to preserve this place, rather than let it die off or devolve into an abandoned place, or turn it into a shopping mall or casino full of zombie-like avatars. So he pays hosts and hostesses to interact with people, especially new people, who find their way here.

    There’s a whole issue in Second Life that seems to revolve around the tension between culture and commerce.

    Culture means encouraging people to communicate with each other, to create things for everyone to enjoy, and to form communities around these things. There are some pretty wild communities in Second Life – places that are permanently on my personal “no go” list. But they are communities knit together by an undeniable bond, and it’s not my place or my right to judge them. I’m interested in places where there’s something beautiful to look at, where there might be music or dancing, where there might even be some kind of theatrical performance or topical discussion. Lauks is occasionally all of these (although tonight it’s kind of slow – which is why I’m catching up on the blog. I belong to a Lauks “group,” among others. I also belong to the Anglicans of Second Life group, a friend’s group that’s like a fun club for wannabe pirate grrrls, and a couple of groups that function like housing associations.

    Commerce can be benign – well designed clothes or hair for sale in attractive areas full of shoppers is a pretty good thing. I belong to a few “shopping update” groups – I get notices about new products, and occasionally, I get free stuff! Empty, dead malls full of abandoned shops, peopled only by “campers” who are literally paid to hang around places in order to pump up their traffic, is not that good a thing. Lovely, scenic residential areas that are being encroached on by ugly “ad farms” with spinning signs are not good at all – I’m member of a group that’s got this very problem, literally on their doorstep.

    I guess my formation as a citizen of Second Life is thus complete; I’ve come down on the side of culture versus commerce. I’m not adverse to being paid for this stance, though… I get a small stipend for hosting. I usually end up donating a chunk of this to various tip jars online.

    As a female, I’ve enjoyed fooling around with wardrobe items and most especially, hair and skin. In my First Life incarnation – the actual flesh-and-blood one, that is – I am NOT interested in clothes, makeup, hairstyle, or fashion. I’m a thoroughgoing tomboy. Jeans are my daily attire. I’ve always been a difficult size to fit, always at the very top of the range: when I was in school, I was just a little too big for Girls, too stocky and tall for Misses, too young for Womens. Now that I’m a Womens, of course, I’m at the far reaches of that range. Since the fashion industry considers women like me unwanted and invisible, for the most part, I’ve given up on it.

    But in Second Life, you can be any size you want. You can be “normal,” but what is normal? And isn’t it a little boring, when you can be a tiny, or a dragon, or a Godlike bowl of noodles?

    Still, choosing to walk around in a standard human avatar size and shape means that you can wear anything you want… or if you are so inclined, wear very little or little at all (if you happen to be in an area of Second Life that does not discourage nudity).

    I choose to be an ordinary but rather pretty woman, quite tall and powerful looking and well muscled rather than thin or “skinny.” I have a lot of clothes, and I wear whatever I want. I change my hairstyle incessantly, although I always stick to the reds and auburns, because that is who I am; a redhead. I can’t be anything else, unless I wear some completely non-human form… and even then, I might be a red-headed elven woman if I feel like it.

    The other night, I was browsing the newly redesigned “search” box, and found something to do that sounded interesting. Sometimes you can actually find something to do that’s not “camping for free money” or “hippie pay,” as the high traffic those places generate artificially boosts the rankings for an event.

    It was advertised as an evening of live entertainment and a tea ceremony, hosted by a geisha, but the catch was, everyone was to attend in as a “tiny,” with a very small avatar, human or animal or “other.” The geisha herself would be a “tiny” as well.


    Unfortunately, I didn’t get a picture of okasan, the actual geisha – but we were all very cute as we sat on special small “kritter sit” poseballs and watched her dance and play the samisen (a stringed instrument, like a banjo). I took this photo so that all the titles were visible – I’m the little black catlike thing with blue wings and a smoking tail. To my right were a tiny kitten in a kimono, a tiny little samurai that looked like a Fisher-Price figure, and a honey bear. To my left, another Fisher-Price figure in a kimono, a Hello Kitty, and something that changed from arachnid to lionfish and back a few times.

    Not that Second Life is a perfect place. Most of the time, you log in, you find your friends, you wander around finding events or places to shop, you hang out at your favorite venues. Sometimes, things go wrong – actually, lately, things go wrong a lot. A few weeks ago, there was some system outage that caused everyone to “rez” (appear) at a random point just above this white cube, which marked the center of an empty area of ocean. People piled up on top of each other, unable to move very far, unable to “teleport” to another place. I couldn’t fly out, as the borders of the area were locked somehow. There was nothing there except one house on one tiny island with a security system that prevented you from going ashore, and there was also an abandoned roadway that ended in midair. There were a lot of Portuguese and Italian speakers trying to figure out what was going on; basically, we’d been abandoned at the bottom of the ocean. Logging out and back in just brought me back to this point, so eventually, I flew in several different directions until I found one that was not “locked,” went as far as I could, and teleported from there.

    This time, I was shown the “the system could not teleport you to your destination, you have been routed to another location” warning, but ended up at some sort of real place that was probably on the mainland, more or less stable. This time, there was a highly entertaining mix of avatars from groups that normally never mix… including a slavemaster of Gor and his subservient slave girl, who spent the whole time silently kneeling in front of him with her knees spread, pretty much nude. Everyone else was chatting and ignoring them, but the IMs going back and forth about them got pretty funny… as in “she’s his PET? Ugh.” Eventually, I was able to teleport somewhere interesting where logging out wasn’t a problem (logging back in returns you to where ever you were, so if you’re in a bad spot, you keep coming back there).

    I went to a peace rally planning meeting and took a photo of the amazing array of avatars that were there, but decided not to publish it. Why? Because some of them objected to the photo being taken, as there’s a sound effect when you “take a photo” (as opposed to simply copying a screenshot to Photoshop). Which was a shame, because it was pretty amusing to be sitting next to a giant red dragon who made jokes about how tasty humans were when covered with maple syrup (I was eating Eggos with syrup at the time). Also, the guy leading the tail end of the meeting – about when it devolved into self-aggrandizing posturing – was this bizarre collection of details and accessories, who sees himself as a revolutionary, I guess. He and a few others were a little paranoid about The Man and wanted to protest in front of IBM, but cooler heads were attempting to prevail and argued for sticking to the original schedule.

    I got frustrated after realizing that a lot of people had put a lot of work into organizing the event, but a few people insisted on dragging other issues into the protest, renaming it, changing all the slogans that had already been decided on, and changing the focus so much that it threatened to become the Second Life version of the WTO protests in Seattle that devolved into gangs of kids running around throwing rocks through the windows of well-known department stores because they were evil corporations.

    It went off pretty much as planned, but I ended up having something else to do that day (ie., I sold out by taking a “job”). But it made the First Life national news – someone asked me about it the next day. In church!

    That’s another thing. I attend church in Second Life at the Anglican Cathedral. It’s just something that I enjoy very much, and I’ve met a number of really nice, talented, and interesting people.

    I’m also a member of a Shakespeare group – some actors are getting together and putting on Hamlet this year, and I plan to attend when they get around to putting on a “live” production. There’s a lot involved in writing scripts that are not for speaking, but for animating your avatar’s face and body so as to convey meaning. It’s pretty fascinating, what they’re trying to do. They’ve already built the Globe Theater, the performances are coming in 2008.

    I’m not so much of a n00b now, and although I’ll probably never become a builder or creator of content, I know enough to be able to appreciate the work of those who do build or create. It’s more than just being able to pretend online – there’s fantastic freedom in being whatever you can possibly imagine. I do recommend it, glitches and underwater abandonment and all. Drop by Lauks Nest for the dancing and conversation, I may be there.